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TAB   "Time And Glory"  -  16  COMMENTS  -  PAGE 1
Time And Glory      [GP5]   [95 hits]   [Version: 1]   [Id: 105597]
Artist: Open Competition Feb 2009
File Size: 40.8 KB     Number of Tracks: 4
Submitted by: apzrman  (All tabs)  on 10 Feb 2009 03:58, commenting:
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Validated by blackiel on 10 Feb 2009 15:35

Rating:  


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what's with people that just doesn't use the right notes?
I mean, the first thing I heard was an Dm over a C, does that makes any sense!?
we can say that from verse 1 and on it gets good 'cause all the instruments are making the same notes, so there are no fake sounds.
and what's with the chorus, you could at least have tried for, I don't know, at least sound like musical.
not that I don't like metal (I use to listen a lot of it and play it), but there were just a few moments of the song which didn't caused me a headache
which basically would be the interlude. it's like the standing part of the song. it actually sounds like you were trying to write MUSIC. And it does sounds good, I think particularly from bar 49 and on. plus, the melody there it's actually a good idea, that's why I liked it.

...why does most of metal amateur songs breaks the part with a single-tonical-clearlynotbrilliant-riffhit
why? it's like it would sound amazing or brilliant
what's with it? what's the point? (BAR 65!!!! WHY!?!?)
(THEN AGAIN! BAR 70!)(THEN BAR 85, THEN BAR 91)
it's like, "no, wait, there was a song playing"
at least I did NOT have that sensation like "good, finally it ended" no, I really didn't, which is good.

anyways, don't expect your best rating coming from me
good luck

Rating: 2.0


Posted by stockle  {{ 15 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 10 Feb 2009 16:30

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I'm not musically trained. Which is why some things that sound alright to me would sound horrible to you. Apart from that interlude, I'm not good at making melodies, mostly just rhythm riffs.

Anyways, I'll go by what you said and try harder on the next song I make.

Posted by apzrman  {{ 7 tabs / 3 corrections }}  on: 11 Feb 2009 00:32

Rated as: Unrated
I'm really glad to hear that :)

Posted by stockle  {{ 15 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 11 Feb 2009 01:30

Rated as: Unrated
Hmm.

It's hard to rate your music, because it really seems like a bunch of ideas which do not stick together.

I'd have to say Marcelo was right about the interlude though, it seemed like the most focused part and it really seemed to give off some sort of driving feel.

Basically your rhythmic ideas are fine. What you need to work on is....

Melody
Harmony
Song structure

If you want to work on writing melodies, for metal, try learning the E minor scale. Then learn the basics of intervals, and you'll be able to create simple, yet effective melodies, without really working hard at it. Just put a little work until it becomes natural to just play around a scale and work out melodies.

One thing you do have going for you is a good sense of repetition throughout the song without making the riffs sound like you've heard them each ten seconds, but these riffs lack a melody or a hook to make them memorable.

One thing that's good to do, is listen to some of your favorite artists, or check out their tabs, see how they write their riffs, structure their songs, and practice writing ideas in their style. It'll broaden your ideas.

Basically... this song is unmemorable, and there's little in terms of melody to catch on to. There's just a bunch of rhythm tracks glued together...

It's a 2 stars from me for now. Try to work on those points I gave you, hopefully you'll improve!



Posted by JazzDeath  {{ 22 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 11 Feb 2009 02:41

Rated as: Unrated
Well, the intro wasn't a good start - the two guitar parts did not fit together at all. Verse 1 is basically the same again without the awful clash, so I guess that's an improvement. Chorus feels sorta bland, not much to it. Mini solo in verse 2 didn't fit either. Like the others said, the interlude is really the only redeeming feature of this song. I especially recommend JazzDeath's advice - looking at tabs of your favorite artists - that's what I did when I first started. I'm not musically trained, either. You'll get better - hope to see you in a later competition with a better song.

2 stars.


Posted by Quibokk  {{ 16 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 11 Feb 2009 19:30

Rated as: Unrated
Thanks guys, I'm learning the scale right now and I'm gonna learn some more songs to try an improve my skills.

Posted by apzrman  {{ 7 tabs / 3 corrections }}  on: 12 Feb 2009 03:30

Rated as: Unrated
hmm... don't know what to say... didn't like it too much. Like other people said before me, rhythmically you have all the good ideas, but in the end there were two important things that didn't come out well:

- the melodies and chords don't seem very well-thought - an example: right at the intro, the Dm over C in bar 2 is alright, but the A7 over C in bar 3... ouch... Plus, it doesn't seem to have a fixed key - is it Cm or Dm? I mean, that's fine if you're going for some avant-garde experimental stuff, but it didn't seem to be the case.

- the whole song seems somewhat disconnected, like a bunch of riffs casually put together (stuff like bars 12 or 35 doesn't help, because it completely breaks down the song, finishing with whatever phrasing you were building in the previous section).

That said, there were some good stuff too - the Short Solo was cool (I mean, there you were, riffing away, and suddenly you change to something completely different... it's a WTF, but of the good kind, and made me laugh :P), and especially the Interlude, which is the only part where it feels that the song is actually going somewhere.

Rating 2 stars - but don't be disappointed, follow the advice the people before me have given (I really have nothing to add) and you'll get a lot better :)

Posted by |_JR_|  {{ 13 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 17 Feb 2009 07:33

Rated as: Unrated
The Main riff actually works even while chromatic which is really cool. The

Chorus i wouldn't call a chorus and i don't think it's very good, same with the

bridge. Verse 2 sounds fantastic and the drums are pretty good throughout the

song, except the overuse of cymbals/bells which shouldn't be used as 16th

notes. Its a pretty stable song and flows pretty well i must say. Not much lead

in the song but that's pretty much the style. The Ending could have been better

though, you don't really expect it. I'd say its a solid song with a few problems

but it's okay.

2.5 stars

Posted by Spin  {{ 5 tabs / 1 corrections }}  on: 21 Feb 2009 22:17

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Not sure what to make of this. Were the dissonant notes in bar 3 intended? The drums didn't feel right. The identical staccato drum and rhythm guitar doesn't work IMO. I exported the GP5 version to GP4, and it sounded better. The "short solo" is way out of context. The main verse riff is ok, but there's not much else that's memorable.

Posted by blackiel  {{ 0 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 22 Feb 2009 17:21

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It had a good beginning and there are some nice ideas in the song, but that's it. There is nothing special. The repertory of riffs is mean.

2.5/5

Posted by MNC_Metal  {{ 4 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 26 Feb 2009 02:44

Rated as: Unrated
The only parts that I like in this song are bars 22-23, 27-28 , and 49-52... in the interlude you abused key changes... everything else is all the same: lame guitar riffs... The chorus didnt felt like one... There’s no melody at all throughout the song... cant say nothing more

Rating 2

Posted by Todo Winterwolf  {{ 11 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 27 Feb 2009 17:52

Rated as: Unrated
What immediately strikes me is that the guitars feel very random. the main riffs doesn't have all that much punch to them, and the rhythm seems bland and predictable. the structure doesn't really offer any dynamics, which in turn makes the song feel very flat after a while. You'll need some dynamics to make the song feel more alive, maybe by having a few parts with less intense drumming og simply changing the guitar to a clean guitar from time to time. there wasn't too much in it for me, and the whole idea of repeating two or four bars twice kinda turns me off. while it is less timeconsuming to tab, it really just feels like a repeated part which offers nothing new. instead of repeating two bars twice, make it four bars with some minor changes to drums or bass or whatever in the 2nd repetition, and it'll feel better instantly. check out songs in the same genre to get a better idea of how the structure should be organized aswell.

1

Posted by Shade Of Blue  {{ 15 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 28 Feb 2009 10:30

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I don't know why this sounded so similar to me to daniel's tune, anyway, as stockle said there's a lack of harmonical sense through the whole song, the song is something like a lot of parts glued to each other, random riffs, no head or main melody, nothing to remember

Rate: 2.0

Posted by Daslaf  {{ 22 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 28 Feb 2009 16:08

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apzrman – Time and Glory

This song gets kind of repetitive real fast, because you do the same thing pretty much all the time. You should add some more dynamic rhythms instead of the current ones. You could do different stuff with the drum lines and other rhythms to make it more interesting. For example in the chorus the drums just do snare drums like the guitar rhythm which isn’t even that great of a rhythm to begin with, so it’s not the best idea to emphasize it like that. Also the chorus doesn’t feel like a chorus at all, just yet another riff.

Interlude is no doubt the better part of the song, you have some more dynamics going on, with the palm muted open string mixed with the old riff structure. Then comes a kind of bad guitar riff kind of thing, but I applaud you for trying to transpose it in different degrees. The outcome could have been better no doubt, but its good you tried, because the idea is definitely good.

Anyway the rest of the song is pretty much repeating. Can’t say I like the song that much overall - too much repetition, and the instruments and rhythms are too simple to make it interesting.

Rating: 1.5

Posted by Beckkill  {{ 11 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 02 Mar 2009 09:14

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apzrman – Time And Glory

Where do I start... the riffs were very, very foreseeable, nothing really managed to successfully grab my attention throughout the piece. My mind sank into a nap-like state as your work unfolded, and I'd only get slightly more alert at rare instances. The highlight here being verse 2 – the unexpected little bits (you know what I'm talking about) had me poke up my head with interest, but all too soon the piece became the same mundane riff workout. Again. It's also not that great if your listener is sitting there pondering whether the singer will try to go all inspirational over the slightly pompous-funny chorus or what instead of focusing on the music at hand, sucked in by it. Your song managed to make me smile in one place though, when I though it's over you get an additional riff before having it end for good. This gets the slightly doubtful honor of being the most drowsiness-inducing song in the competition... you've shown you have your moments (verse 2, plus some stuff from previous competition song), please try to make your next composition have as many of those moments as possible. Okay? Thanks.

Rating: 1,5 stars

Posted by RumpyTheRubbuhChikin  {{ 30 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 04 Mar 2009 17:09

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