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TAB   "Ocean's Whisper"  -  12  COMMENTS  -  PAGE 1
Ocean's Whisper      [GP5]   [198 hits]   [Version: 1]   [Id: 105693]
Artist: Ambient Competition March 2009
File Size: 58.2 KB     Number of Tracks: 8
Submitted by: daniel9388  (All tabs)  on 07 Mar 2009 16:04, commenting:
Wrote for my gf, I think it fits into this category. Hope you like it. If you cant play with RSE go here for audio purposes. http://www.myspace.com/sasspirillapooldippin
Validated by Generis Humani on 08 Mar 2009 16:52


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Well daniel, I'm glad to hear something different from you, very glad also.

Here I've got no claims for style, you have a more pop oriented ambient song, but it's effective for the most part.

I can tell you, your notion of rhythmics, your notion of melody, are all pretty good in this song, not overly complex, but effective nonetheless, but try to work on your notion of harmony a bit - how notes and different instruments should complement each other. There's nothing overly dissonant or very painful to the ears here, but sometimes I feel the instruments could complement each other better.

Also, the song is well written, but it lacks that little something that makes a song stick out from the others. I'd have to say this is your best composed tune, from what I've heard from you, but it lacks a personal touch, that unique aspect that makes you say "Hey, this sounds like daniel wrote it."

Although formulaic, it does the trick, and it is a pleasant listen. I couldn't say it's a bad song, but it doesn't stick out above the average. Still, well done, I'm glad to see you're able to compose different styles!

Posted by JazzDeath  {{ 22 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 09 Mar 2009 12:59

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Ocean's Whisper - daniel9388

This song is... fine, but I do have a few issues with it.

I would suggest changing your lead guitar to jazz, for starters - clean guitar sound in MIDI imo isn't that great to listen to - especially when using it for guitar solos.

You should get rid of the tremolo picking in the drum track. I've seen several tabs on this site where people do this - I don't know why. The tablature is easier to understand when you simply show each of the note values, instead of hiding the "messiness" behind tremolo.

Parts of the bass track in the chorus sound a little off to me. Bar 19 sounds a little strange as well...

Try mixing the instruments - volumes are all the same, and you could utilise panning for a better effect overall.

I DO like the bass in the verses, however.

This song isn't bad - like Jazz said, it's one of the better songs I've seen from you (not that I've been here long or anything), but the flaws pointed out above sorta tarnish it. As it is, it's just an average song.

Posted by Quibokk  {{ 16 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 13 Mar 2009 21:19

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Did you have any rse or just straight midi cause it wasn't meant to be heard on straight midi.

Posted by daniel9388  {{ 33 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 14 Mar 2009 04:30

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Sorry, I feel like an idiot now... Didn't read the info above...
Scrap the previous comment now, unless you like to look at what I think of the MIDI...

Ocean's Whisper - daniel9388

This song is fine, though I do have a few small issues with it.

You should get rid of the tremolo picking in the drum track. I've seen several tabs on this site where people do this - I don't know why. The tablature is easier to understand when you simply show each of the note values, instead of hiding the "messiness" behind tremolo.

Try mixing the instruments - volumes are all the same, and you could utilise panning for a better effect overall.

I DO like the bass in the verses, however. Good choice with the RSE guitar.

This song isn't bad at all - like Jazz said, it's one of the better songs I've seen from you (not that I've been here long or anything). Well composed.

Posted by Quibokk  {{ 16 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 14 Mar 2009 21:16

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Yea the main reason why I use tremolo on drums is because its faster but I should right them properly.

Posted by daniel9388  {{ 33 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 15 Mar 2009 02:10

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daniel9388 – Ocean's Whisper

Well, that was... unexpected of you :P I thought of you as this fun, tongue-in-cheek, dissonant metal composer, and all of a sudden you pop this quite fulfilled ballad. It's drastically different from your commonly threaded ground, and it shows... at times you seem to feel slightly uneasy writing the music, and the content becomes a little forced. Also, a slight pointer – I don't know if you mix songs using RSE or midi, but clean guitar for long-note, very slow leads isn't exactly the best choice around, especially since the slightly harsh, trebly sound clashes with the rest of your cast as it plays the melody. Work on your leads a little – the ones here aren't bad, but you can sprinkle a little extra something into your soloing to make them superb. Now... a certain problem with the piece – it's just not ambient. It feels like a rock ballad more than a “strictly ambient” bit, and the atmosphere conjured is rather far from anything I'd consider an ambient mood. It's good for what it is, but it's a bit like gorilla with a chimp mask at a chimp-only secret meeting.

Rating: 3 stars

Posted by RumpyTheRubbuhChikin  {{ 30 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 17 Mar 2009 14:15

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to rumpy
lol I guess it sticks out. I use rse for everything. did you use midi?

Posted by daniel9388  {{ 33 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 17 Mar 2009 19:03

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nice, steady and pleasant intro. The acoustic rhythm didn't sound right though at that point, a bit "stiff", but perhaps that's GP midi for you. The piano arpeggios went on a bit too long. This song could have done with some panning as it wasn't quite right without it. Even the volumes were all the same level, and it showed, as some of the instruments were too loud in parts. I didn't find anything remarkable about this song but it was pleasant nonetheless.

Posted by blackiel  {{ 0 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 18 Mar 2009 16:38

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I'm sorry to say this song came out to me as very... average. I mean, it's definitely well composed, orchestration is fine (at least on the myspace version, which I'm basing this comment on), and it has ambience... to an extent - I agree with Rumpy that it sounds pop-rockish in some places, especially the chorus.

Some things could be improved though... especially the guitar solo, the start is promising but after that it feels tame, ends up feeling anticlimatic in what's supposed to be the most emotional part of the song [I think]. Also, the ending is a bit cliché imo.

I guess the main reason for my 3 is that there wasn't a lot of originality in this song - this comes as a bit of a shock to me after your weird-yet-enjoyable stuff from last month - I think it lacks something to distinguish it from others in the same style.

[side note - I've listened to some of the other songs you had on the myspace - was suprised by how well Fears Release sounds with a decent soundsystem! If i'd found this last month I might have given you a 3.5 :/ the cookie monster song sounds really cool too ;) ]

Posted by |_JR_|  {{ 13 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 22 Mar 2009 13:53

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Daniel9388 – Ocean’s Whisper

Um, what can I say. This tune is an at most average tune, however this is not ambient to me. It’s more like a ballad type song.

At times there’s awkward note choices like having an Cmaj7 chord with a B in the bass – I know it’s part of the chord tones but in the bass it just sounds dissonant in the bad way.

Then there’s a part like the pre-chorus, it doesn’t seem to connect the chorus and the verse very well but I guess it’s not super bad. The chorus seems ok, although I miss some kind of melody just to make it a more pleasant listen.

The solo isn’t that magnificent – it has some pretty dull phrasings, however you seem to know when to play the notes with the chords.

Overall the tune comes across rather mediocre. There’s nothing there to make me remember it really. The tune isn’t really ambient either which will draw down the score a notch. However it’s nice knowing you are open to try other things than what is your normal style.

For now just try to work out your harmony a little better so you avoid odd notes in this kind of music, and try to make the tune flow better like redoing the pre chorus for example.

Rating – 2.0

Posted by Beckkill  {{ 11 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 27 Mar 2009 12:27

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Ocean’s Whisper

Well this song starts really nice, with the piano and the keys... But when the guitar enters, that killed the mood for me. Maybe some arpeggios like in bar 15 would have worked much better, but the way it enters all of the sudden without any “reason”, didnt work for me... Same with the drums, but to a lesser extent.

To put it simple, when it started, I was thinking “oh nice, a calm piano-driven ambient song”... I was hoping for quiet drumming, and, as I said before, arpeggiated guitar... But the way you wroked it, it doesn’t really sound so ambient to me. But I don’t blame you, I know no one (well, no one except Jazz) had a clear notion of what was real ambient stuff.

So far it may seem that I dont like this song, but I did like it, it’s a good song, I can see it is well composed. It’s just that what I said before is kind of disappointing from a “ambient point of view”.


Posted by Todo Winterwolf  {{ 11 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 31 Mar 2009 21:47

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Daniel9388 - Ocean's Whisper

Unexpected at all, this is actually a very nice theme though I have some (lots of) complains, but let me tell you this is the finest piece I've ever heard from you. Enough claps and cheers and let's do the ripper.. mhm.. I mean, judge task.

First of all, I'm judging all the songs without RSE cause that's how this competition was meant to be, but I listened to your song with RSE just to figure out what you were pretending to do and I see that the lead guitar has this delay effect, which improves a lot the clean guitar sound, but that's not suposed to be considered by the judges, so I guess you'll have to improve the mixing, panning and chose of instruments ON MIDI for the next competition. Clean guitar ain't the best for leads and I felt the rythm guitar very rough, I guess a nylon stringed would have fit better with the smooth feeling here.

Chord Progression is very nice, simple and it does the job, but you have this same rhythm all the way through, i.e. the rhythm guitar in the chorus, it feels very mechanical and in the end annoying, arpeggios over here and there would have helped. The "soloing" had its moments, some licks worked fine but the others were terrible, the solo didn't make it at all, it had a better sound on RSE, BUT we're working here with MIDI so... sorry. Bass was very good all the way through, sometimes sounded a little off but no big deal.

Prechorus is the best part of your song IMO, it's a shame it just appeared once. And I can't believe this song lasts more than 6 minutes, maybe some parts were toooo long. You could have made verse 2 and the following chorus a bit shorter, you exposed their main ideas very well previously so I think there was no need to make them that long!!

You know, the other day I was watching a TV show called Master Classes, the host is Daniel Barenboim, an excelent and very well known orchestra leader and piano player. So in this show Mr. Barenboim listens to a young musician playing a Bethoveen piano concerto, sonata, whatever... and then he gives this guy some feedback, I can't remember which Bethoveen concerto was but the main theme appeared in the beggining and in the end of the piece. When this fella finished playing, Barenboim said something like this: "You can't play the main theme the same way in the beggining and in the end, cause the first time (intro) you play it you're introducing something to the audience, but then when you play it again (outro) you're creating a space for the listeners to remember all the things that happened before, so you don't have to emphasize the same things you did the first time, you have to play it with a different approach". I hope you get the main idea of these lines and apply it to your song.

And finally, this wasn't like ambient at all... it was like melodic pop/rock but anyway, I got this feeling of tranquility in some parts of the song.

Rate: 2.5 stars, dispiting the fact this stuff ain't too ambient at all this has to be pulled off a lot.

Posted by Daslaf  {{ 22 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 02 Apr 2009 14:06

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