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Projectionism      [GP5]   [229 hits]   [Version: 2]   [Id: 105737]
Artist: Open Competition April 2009
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Submitted by: Quibokk  (All tabs)  on 02 Apr 2009 05:56, commenting:
An 8 min concept song - basically follows a story. My longest ever - hope you all enjoy.
Validated by Generis Humani on 02 Apr 2009 08:16


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Quibokk – Projectionism

...and with another piece from you, I'm developing an understanding of your strengths and weaknesses. A composer who doesn't play anything is an interesting case indeed, worthy of further study. I knew of only one such individual before, on MSB, but never had a chance to really investigate his work, let alone get to talk to him. Anyway... your strengths – harmony (you know how to do some interesting progressions) and orchestration. I know that opening one of your comps equals those two things done to perfection. However, you have a huge weakness... your melodies all feel fake, unreal... it's where it really comes out that you don't play any instrument. Your melodies lack a certain lyrical aspect, they feel like a bunch of notes typed in and nothing more. Notice how when you recall a favorite melody of yours you don't think of it as a sequence of notes, no? A really dam fine melody has something more there, something one just can't seem to snatch... something that's absent from your note sequences. Nevertheless, the piece is well executed, everything is written properly. It feels like a concept piece indeed, but doesn't flow along the story you propose. You can't really tell that much difference between what's happening unless it's the invasion and the murder... the continuity is a good thing, since the piece sticks together and doesn't fall apart into a gazillion subsections, but it doesn't offer that much of interest... still, the compositional workshop you've developed makes for an okay listen.

Rate: 3.5 stars

Posted by RumpyTheRubbuhChikin  {{ 30 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 18 Apr 2009 12:17

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I think the song structure seemed like it was a load of different parts put together, rather than telling a story. There were some parts I hated though: "Murder" for instance. I know you've written a story by titling the sections and adding text along the way. However, I prefer not to see this at all, nor for the composer to tell me the story. I like to hear the story in my head. So that spoiled it for me. However, I liked the song generally. The tempos were good, the instruments used were just right and the mix was ok. It would have helped if you had added chord boxes for the rhythm guitar track as it seemed difficult to play so it would have helped to give the listener a guide as to how you think it should be played.

Posted by blackiel  {{ 0 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 19 Apr 2009 11:36

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Holy crap. You really went the distance with this one... I mean, the complexity of all the orchestrations, instrument changes (with some unsusual sounds like music box, bottle blow, etc), all the different melodies going on throughout... I think I'd never be able to commit to such an extensive project, so I can be nothing but amazed at this.

And it's impressive, how the very different moods (the happy, the sad, the creepy...) come together so nicely, I never got the impression of the "flow" of the song being broken (well, except for Invasion and Murder, but it's for a good cause - it's good to see you have that crazy gene in you after all! loved all the effects in Murder, very inventive). More than that, you create all those moods very effectively, something really hard to do.

You say "Making a Friend" is cheesy - I didn't really see it that way, it is happy, but not cheesy I think (actually, the progression in the very first 4 bars felt more cheesy to me, mostly because I've heard it a lot before in cheesy songs. But it's okay.)

There was only one thing that didn't convince me: the ending. Lonely death? Really? Sounded more like "sudden death" or something (I got the impression that the poor guy got hit by a truck). But that doesn't detract from the experience in any way.

4.5 (no 5 because for me it's a draw between you and Blackiel)

Posted by |_JR_|  {{ 13 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 21 Apr 2009 03:55

Rated as: Unrated
Well Quibokk, where to start...

I like the mood of this composition, it"s got a nice uplifting feel at the more uptempo, happy areas, and yet there's a little hint of darkness which develops further on in the song pretty well. It's very well structured in term of feeling, I'll give you that.

On the other hand some of the themes seem to come in one ear, and while pleasantly leaving the other, make it hard to really grasp on to anything, in a movie per se you might associate with a character throughout the film, in this song though, you're missing that one aspect which holds it together perfectly.

It flows very well, certainly, but it still feels like a bunch of different songs from a viedogame, where a lot of the sections are different parts of the game. That's the mood I seem to have gotten from it.

For the individual sections, plans set in motion was a great type of anticipation idea at first, but then the flute kind of brought it back to the happier mood right before the invasion.

Don't get me wrong, as far as individual sections go, Invasion is my favorite part - It's all out and it's really quite a bang of a "climax" so to speak, but I feel the rest of the song was trying to work up to that moment, and had too many... little cool things, little segments added, which really didn't add to the song, just made it longer.

It's not an unpleasant listen at all. I like it, actually. But it could have been polished much better, on a couple transitions.

The end was simple, effective, a bit abrupt for the length of the piece.

Some of my favorite parts are the Arrival, the Invasion... And the beggining of the piece(Transportation makes me think of some old King Crimson =).

I feel like for such a long piece, there's very little that sticks in my head, seems like there were a lot of parts just so you could have a lot of parts....

After all that, I'll have to give the piece a 4, everything is excellently composed save for a few questionable
transitions, abrupt feel changes and some sections which brought nothing overall.

(I am reserving my ratings until everyone has been commented.)

Posted by JazzDeath  {{ 22 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 24 Apr 2009 15:08

Rated as: Unrated
that's a nice song!

Posted by Hugo  {{ 52 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 01 May 2009 19:09

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This song seemed to be put together by a lot of unrelated parts, which in the long run made the song a bit boring to listen to, because all the parts seemed to fight each other instead of strengthening each other. Your strong points are definitely harmony and chord progressions. But you really have a problem with melodies. They all sound very fake, and it makes the experience that much less enjoyable. You seem to have a lot of cool musical ideas, you just have a problem connecting the different parts of a song together in a sensible way. I get the impression it’s all glued kind of randomly together, which is a bad thing for such a long song.
Overall – practice your melodies and song structure. The rest seems to be at a pretty good level as it is now.

Posted by Beckkill  {{ 11 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 15 May 2009 17:32

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Quibokk – Projectionism
Ha! I beat you! My longest song is 19 minutes long! (Sorry, I had to do that)
Seriously speaking though, though song to comment this one… On one side, I love most of the stuff you did with the ocarina and keys, but on the other side, I don’t like the flow of this song… You said it’s like a collection of themes, but I think I noticed two or three parts that are repeated, with some variations. There are some separate parts I really like, but they just fade away in this mix of moods and emotions (maybe it’s my fault because I didn’t get the story at all)…
Rating: 3

Posted by Todo Winterwolf  {{ 11 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 15 May 2009 20:37

Rated as: Unrated
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