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TAB   "File 32"  -  8  COMMENTS  -  PAGE 1
File 32      [GP5]   [151 hits]   [Version: 1]   [Id: 106259]
Artist: Open Competition Oct/Nov 2009
File Size: 81.9 KB     Number of Tracks: 6
Submitted by: Todo Winterwolf  (All tabs)  on 17 Oct 2009 23:53, commenting:
Prog rock/metal stuff... enjoy!
Validated by Generis Humani on 18 Oct 2009 11:53


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Well now, todo. A new entry from you =).

I'll give you a comment on this because well, it really sticks out as a sore thumb to me and really detracts to this song, whether most people realize it or not - considering your choice of time signatures, your drums are accentuating rhythmics all over the place when they shouldn't be.

I might be bothered by this solely because I'm a drummer but I really think that when playing in signatures like these, the drums need to accentuate the right areas. This entire song seems to suffer from a very unstable rhythmic basis because of it, and it makes it wander rather aimlessly throughout the riffs.

The other problem is the tonal/key changes throughout the song are handled questionably, and it makes the song sound disjointed in feel.

This being said I can't really tell you any of the ideas are bad on their own, there are good ideas in here, they just don't stick together coherently, and they have a very loose basis. It's like building a house with a loose foundation, it really doesn't hold up very well.

It's worth 2.5 stars, because the ideas on their own are in no way bad, or unlistenable. I just have trouble defining this as a coherent musical piece.

Posted by JazzDeath  {{ 22 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 27 Oct 2009 17:49

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Hmmm, about the time signatures I can´t agree with Jazzdeath. I think that it sounds fitting, at least to me. Usually when I see all those meter changes I expect some proggy stuff that is just proggy because it wants to be, but in this case it makes sence at all. But on the other hand I am no drummer so I can´t really give a qualified comment about that.
To the music:
Your intro is quite good and I like the rising of it very much. Part A is pretty boring, although you managed it to upgrade the part every time you repeat it. Maybe it´s the lack of a vocal line. But this way it doesm´t give much to me. The Bridge is better but not a jewel eather.
The Chorus sounds unexpected happy, but it´s quite good this way.
Bass Section and Keyboard Solo are pretty cool. I like them.
Presolo and Solo are good as well, but I got the impression that you a bit disturbed by your weird time signatures this time. Some times the rhythms sound a bit weird. But globally it´s okay.
I don´t like your third solo very much. It could be better if you choose other chords. I don´t think it´s a good decision to change the mode all the time.

The rest of the song is great. Part C is fantastic, your last solo, the outro. Everything.
Surely the simpliest things in the whole song, but certainly the best.

After all it´s not a bad song, but some more catchy parts would maybe the key to ease the whole thing a bit. Interesting structure though. You only have one chorus so most of the action should happen in part A. It would have been a good choice to tab the vocals at least for these parts.

Ratings come after hearing all comp songs.

Posted by Donkey of Steel  {{ 8 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 29 Oct 2009 09:03

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I main thing that bugs me with this piece is that it doesn't seem to go anywhere. Its almost like 10 different people are trying to tell a story and none of them get past the beginning. While I'm sure this was intentional a lot parts seem to have poor or no transitions at all. Making it sound more random to the listener. The time changes were done good. I did notice what jazzdeath was talking about, drums did seem to accentuate in random odd places, but I couldn't tell you how to fix that. All the different parts sounded good but could be connected better imo. I do appreciate this song for the expressive creativity it has.

Posted by daniel9388  {{ 33 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 11 Nov 2009 00:51

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2,5 stars

Posted by Donkey of Steel  {{ 8 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 12 Nov 2009 05:32

Rated as: Unrated
Judging this song was not easy to me at all. That´s because I think in this song you can find parts that try too hard to be proggy, which makes some modulations, transitions or odd tempos be listened as forced, but there are other parts or sections where you did a very good Work Todo. So it was a little confusing. Song starts nice, the A part it´s good but not great. Bridge is okay but the transition to A isn´t smooth enough. Chorus is nice, very melodic, with a strange but actually good change to the Bass break, which is ok until the keys starts the solo, which I didn´t like it at all. With all respect,in some parts I even think that it was made just placing numbers randomly. the 17/16 part is maybe the only part of this section that is actually nice. The guitar solo is far away better.
In the Guitar/Keys solo the Keyboard isn´t as bad as in first solo, this part is ok. The song improves from the Break to the Outro, but anything is stunning or awesome, just good. Writing progressive is a very good challenge, but isn´t easy. I think some parts you did pulled off well, but some other don´t. I feel your keyboards solos aren´t as cool as they could be.
So, in summary I don´t think your song it´s bad at all, but in progressive is a lot easier to screw it up, if you don´t find the right balance. Keep composing and you´ll reach it, i´m preety sure. Good Luck!
3 Stars

Posted by Colochinni  {{ 5 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 15 Nov 2009 16:33

Rated as: Unrated
I have one major issue with this song, and that is structure. Ok, it's prog, it's supposed to feature weird song structures, but this one seems to lack a "hook" and a sense of direction. Nevertheless, it was pretty enjoyable.

My favourite part is A, the piano works really well as the riff leader, and you nailed the 7/8 nicely (despite some odd locations for the snares and other drum beats as Jazz was saying, no biggie though, consider this nitpicking).

The chorus was ok, but I think it lacked punch, that lazy quarter note bassline and the slow guitar riff didn't help. Then things begin to fall apart for me, that bass break comes out of nowhere with all the punch the chorus lacked, and things get messy. The keys solo was cool in a rather odd way. :P But I think the keys deserved a bit more volume in that section.

Your transition back to part A consists basically of a "BLEH" moment... ok, that works sometimes, but in this one I think a better flow would be in order. Part B is pretty nice, but could use some more powerful bass and rhythm guitar. Still, it should work ok in real life.

Your guitar solos were really good, seems that since "Alive" you really took that Slashy style and made it yours, nice and melodic, me likes :] Part C enters really nicely with a lot of power, but you could have taken more advantage of it, make it last for some more bars before entering that last guitar solo. Nothing to say on this and the outro though, nice.

Overall, good stuff, but gets a bit messy at times, and it hurts your score unfortunately.

Rating: 3

Posted by |_JR_|  {{ 13 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 23 Nov 2009 03:25

Rated as: Unrated
File 32 - Todo Winterwolf

Okay, well, the song felt pretty pleasant, until I got to what I felt was complete randomness. After that first chorus, I was just settling down to properly listen, and this Bass Break came in. I wasn't looking at the tab at the time, and I sorta went "WHAT?" And to make it feel even more sporadic, the song continues as normal afterwards. It felt like a random splice of another song had somehow stuck itself in there, and refused to get out.

"C" to Pre-outro Solo really didn't do it for me either - the change in key didn't work, and there was really no transition there. But really, the rest of the song is fine - it's just that you forced the attempted progressiveness of it too much. And I do sorta see what Jazz is saying about the drumwork - things feel a little offkilter, particularly at the start.

So, I guess I agree with what Jazz has said mostly - nothing wrong whatsoever with the ideas used - it's just the rhythm and cohesion. Next time try to write something that you're comfortable with - I know that I would have trouble writing stuff in those time sigs, as you've probably seen already by my Skelly entry. That's if you aim to win a competition, that is - nothing wrong with experimentation, and getting feedback on it.

3 stars.

Posted by Quibokk  {{ 16 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 25 Nov 2009 04:08

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Nice song, all the themes here are very pleasent to listen, I feel there are some unatural parts though (like you were really trying to use weird time sigs), but in the end the song flows great.

"A" and its multiple encarnations are very nice, I really liked the variations you made of the intro theme. Bridge sounds amazing, what a nice chord progression, though the transition from 37 to 38 didn't feel quite right. The chorus is smooth, nice progression again but why the hell the chorus (which is supposed to be one of the main sections of the song) appears just one time?

Anyway, the bass break as a whole is cool, but it really got interesting when the other instruments appeared. Man, the keys solo is very Sherinian-ish and those 17/16 bars sound soooo Planet X xD. It's good man, I really liked that part and is kinda risky adding this kind of sections in the middle of a smooth and mid tempo paced song, but this worked great IMO. Again, the transition to "A" could have been better.

The guitar solo has this particular "you" sound, but I feel some leads there kinda cheesy, same thing with the guitar and keys solo, that's a low point on this tune. I liked how the break brings back the A theme though, nice.

The last part of this song feels very erratic, I don't see the point of those tempo changes and the pre-outro guitar solo kills all the swing that C brought to the song. Anyway, nice quoting of the A theme in the last 4 bars.

Nice song overall, 3.5 stars.

Posted by Daslaf  {{ 22 tabs / 0 corrections }}  on: 30 Nov 2009 11:53

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